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	<title>Comments on: Listening to Music - Erosion or Accumulation?</title>
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	<description>Resources for Leading Worship from Bob Kauflin</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/07/listening-to-music-erosion-or-accumulation/#comment-10877</link>
		<dc:creator>jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I wonder how well O Sacred Head Now Wounded went over on "release Sunday." Not the easiest sing or lyrical acquisition, but WOW!

I think one of the biggest problems today is a corpus of songs that says, "Oh God I want to worship you and praise you..." without ever declaring the "why"....you can never get enough cross and resurrection in songs in my opinion.  Is the foundation for our praise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I wonder how well O Sacred Head Now Wounded went over on &#8220;release Sunday.&#8221; Not the easiest sing or lyrical acquisition, but WOW!</p>
<p>I think one of the biggest problems today is a corpus of songs that says, &#8220;Oh God I want to worship you and praise you&#8230;&#8221; without ever declaring the &#8220;why&#8221;&#8230;.you can never get enough cross and resurrection in songs in my opinion.  Is the foundation for our praise.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not used much of Hillsong's stuff over the years either, but have recently used "Mighty to Save" in our services. Simple yet powerful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not used much of Hillsong&#8217;s stuff over the years either, but have recently used &#8220;Mighty to Save&#8221; in our services. Simple yet powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: Analisse</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/07/listening-to-music-erosion-or-accumulation/#comment-10274</link>
		<dc:creator>Analisse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cannot believe you said that hillsong is weak on the lyrical side! wow i think their lyrics are amazing and life changing. Brooke fraser happens to be m favorite female artist too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cannot believe you said that hillsong is weak on the lyrical side! wow i think their lyrics are amazing and life changing. Brooke fraser happens to be m favorite female artist too.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/07/listening-to-music-erosion-or-accumulation/#comment-10178</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(sorry, premature send...)

a practice I would like to employ more often.  I think of two songs... Parachute Band's "All The Earth" and Redman's "Lord, Let Your Glory Fall" that I hesitated with for over a year.  I even tried them out in worship rehearsals.  There was no initial "release" to use them.  But they endured in my spirit and now that they are in the songlist, they are effective and deep when we use them. I am appreciative of how they (just 2 examples) were allowed to "accumulate" in me first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(sorry, premature send&#8230;)</p>
<p>a practice I would like to employ more often.  I think of two songs&#8230; Parachute Band&#8217;s &#8220;All The Earth&#8221; and Redman&#8217;s &#8220;Lord, Let Your Glory Fall&#8221; that I hesitated with for over a year.  I even tried them out in worship rehearsals.  There was no initial &#8220;release&#8221; to use them.  But they endured in my spirit and now that they are in the songlist, they are effective and deep when we use them. I am appreciative of how they (just 2 examples) were allowed to &#8220;accumulate&#8221; in me first.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/07/listening-to-music-erosion-or-accumulation/#comment-10177</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great topic.  It's been on my heart for years. "In Christ Alone" and "The Power of the Cross" are songs we've used that definitely fall into the Accumulation category.  Sometimes you can 'smell' those kind of songs right away.

Oftentimes, though, you cannot sense Accumulation early on.  I long for a different mindset among both leaders and congregations than the "write it, record it, use it" immediacy that drives our worship plannning.  Listening to and using songs privately for a very long time, before adding them to songsets is a practice I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic.  It&#8217;s been on my heart for years. &#8220;In Christ Alone&#8221; and &#8220;The Power of the Cross&#8221; are songs we&#8217;ve used that definitely fall into the Accumulation category.  Sometimes you can &#8217;smell&#8217; those kind of songs right away.</p>
<p>Oftentimes, though, you cannot sense Accumulation early on.  I long for a different mindset among both leaders and congregations than the &#8220;write it, record it, use it&#8221; immediacy that drives our worship plannning.  Listening to and using songs privately for a very long time, before adding them to songsets is a practice I</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Carter</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/07/listening-to-music-erosion-or-accumulation/#comment-10112</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you bob. Brooke is doing a great job crossing over especially in New Zealand. I am grateful that belivers like Brooke are reaching a broader audience. I too would like to hear Hillsong gain more depth, maybe if the songs of hillsong had more scriptural depth American Idol singers couldnt mask a worship song by only changing one word. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you bob. Brooke is doing a great job crossing over especially in New Zealand. I am grateful that belivers like Brooke are reaching a broader audience. I too would like to hear Hillsong gain more depth, maybe if the songs of hillsong had more scriptural depth American Idol singers couldnt mask a worship song by only changing one word. <img src='http://www.worshipmatters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Coller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Coller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and looking forward to seeing you at WorshipGod08! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and looking forward to seeing you at WorshipGod08! <img src='http://www.worshipmatters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Coller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Coller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Bob, I listened through Albertine a few times and even played Deciphering Me for a friend's school performance. I agree with your analysis that it's a CD that gets better the more you listen to it - I haven't heard it in ages though, I may have to borrow it off her when I get back.

I've not been to Hillsong's services, but I have heard some tapes of Brian Houston, and certainly from those his teaching is much more God-focused in the context of the local church than you see in the conferences. And having heard Darlene Zschech's teaching on worship, their basis is all in the right place.

I don't know if you've listened to anything by Reuben Morgan? His lyrics are usually pretty top notch - especially "More Than Life" and "For All You've Done" (he was one of their worship leaders, I'm not sure if he still is or not). And his song "What the Lord Has Done in Me" is one of the best 'accumulating' songs I know - right up there with "In Christ Alone" and "To Live is Christ" by Parachute Band/Youth Alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Bob, I listened through Albertine a few times and even played Deciphering Me for a friend&#8217;s school performance. I agree with your analysis that it&#8217;s a CD that gets better the more you listen to it - I haven&#8217;t heard it in ages though, I may have to borrow it off her when I get back.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not been to Hillsong&#8217;s services, but I have heard some tapes of Brian Houston, and certainly from those his teaching is much more God-focused in the context of the local church than you see in the conferences. And having heard Darlene Zschech&#8217;s teaching on worship, their basis is all in the right place.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve listened to anything by Reuben Morgan? His lyrics are usually pretty top notch - especially &#8220;More Than Life&#8221; and &#8220;For All You&#8217;ve Done&#8221; (he was one of their worship leaders, I&#8217;m not sure if he still is or not). And his song &#8220;What the Lord Has Done in Me&#8221; is one of the best &#8216;accumulating&#8217; songs I know - right up there with &#8220;In Christ Alone&#8221; and &#8220;To Live is Christ&#8221; by Parachute Band/Youth Alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know if it's just coincidence or if all your blog readers  went to iTunes for the $5.99 Brooke Fraser album, but iTunes is now in the process of increasing the price to $11.88.  It was good while it lasted, alas I waited until I got home from work to purchase it and now I'll pay $6 more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s just coincidence or if all your blog readers  went to iTunes for the $5.99 Brooke Fraser album, but iTunes is now in the process of increasing the price to $11.88.  It was good while it lasted, alas I waited until I got home from work to purchase it and now I&#8217;ll pay $6 more.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kauflin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Kauflin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

I keep forgetting that there are people reading this blog on the other side of the world...

You bought Albertine for your sister, but do you have it? Just curious.

I'd agree that Hillsong writing in general is getting better. So often, though, there will be one or two lines in an otherwise great song that are unclear, man-focused, or more driven by emotion than biblical clarity. When you add the visual production to some of the songs it can be difficult to focus on the truth that's being sung. But I'm usually seeing videos of conferences and not a Sunday meeting of the church.

Haven't listened to Saviour King closely, but will do so in the near future. In fact, I'm listening right now. I'll share some more thoughts in the near future. Thanks for reading the blog, Nick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>I keep forgetting that there are people reading this blog on the other side of the world&#8230;</p>
<p>You bought Albertine for your sister, but do you have it? Just curious.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d agree that Hillsong writing in general is getting better. So often, though, there will be one or two lines in an otherwise great song that are unclear, man-focused, or more driven by emotion than biblical clarity. When you add the visual production to some of the songs it can be difficult to focus on the truth that&#8217;s being sung. But I&#8217;m usually seeing videos of conferences and not a Sunday meeting of the church.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t listened to Saviour King closely, but will do so in the near future. In fact, I&#8217;m listening right now. I&#8217;ll share some more thoughts in the near future. Thanks for reading the blog, Nick.</p>
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