Comments on: Shout to the Lord on American Idol http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/ Resources for Leading Worship from Bob Kauflin Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:28:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Katie Crum http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-8101 Katie Crum Tue, 06 May 2008 04:42:23 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-8101 I have had similar thoughts on this particular topic. On one hand I always get excited when I am watching the show and someone openly talks about their Christianity and backs that up by choosing a worship or Christian song as their song. I think it is so great that they are proclaiming God in front of millions of people. It is so great that everyone watching the show is hearing the words of a worship song instead of some of the secular songs that are nearly always sung. On the other hand, is American Idol really the proper place to be singing worship songs? As you said, I am not sure it is exactly the right context because the fullness of the message is not portrayed or focused on. Thanks for your insight! I have had similar thoughts on this particular topic. On one hand I always get excited when I am watching the show and someone openly talks about their Christianity and backs that up by choosing a worship or Christian song as their song. I think it is so great that they are proclaiming God in front of millions of people. It is so great that everyone watching the show is hearing the words of a worship song instead of some of the secular songs that are nearly always sung. On the other hand, is American Idol really the proper place to be singing worship songs? As you said, I am not sure it is exactly the right context because the fullness of the message is not portrayed or focused on. Thanks for your insight!

]]> By: Nick S. http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7665 Nick S. Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:19:14 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7665 I think that you bring up a very important point about worship in general; we should include the reason why we "Shout to the Lord." Without the rich background of the Gospel, this song would be no different than a popular song on the radio or television. Christ's death is what makes Christianity unique among religions and our services and attitudes should portray that; nothing we believe in could be possible without the debt that was paid by his blood. Hopefully, God willing, Christianity in the public eye will help lead others to places where they can find depth and meaning to songs like "Shout to the Lord." I think that you bring up a very important point about worship in general; we should include the reason why we “Shout to the Lord.” Without the rich background of the Gospel, this song would be no different than a popular song on the radio or television.

Christ’s death is what makes Christianity unique among religions and our services and attitudes should portray that; nothing we believe in could be possible without the debt that was paid by his blood.

Hopefully, God willing, Christianity in the public eye will help lead others to places where they can find depth and meaning to songs like “Shout to the Lord.”

]]> By: can http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7511 can Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:11:43 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7511 Douglas Wrote... "How many were of clean hands and a pure heart that sang “Shout to the Lord” on that American Idol show? Idols singing unto God almighty, eh?" My question is how many of us can claim to be worthy to sing any song of Praise to God, or even deserve to? Douglas Wrote…

“How many were of clean hands and a pure heart that sang “Shout to the Lord” on that American Idol show? Idols singing unto God almighty, eh?”

My question is how many of us can claim to be worthy to sing any song of Praise to God, or even deserve to?

]]> By: a dash of nutmag! :: Shout To the Lord on American Idol :: April :: 2008 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7319 a dash of nutmag! :: Shout To the Lord on American Idol :: April :: 2008 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:57:20 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7319 [...] this article sums up my thoughts so very well! By Bob Kauflin on Shout to the Lord on American Idol Have a good [...] [...] this article sums up my thoughts so very well! By Bob Kauflin on Shout to the Lord on American Idol Have a good [...]

]]> By: bobw http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7316 bobw Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:40:59 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7316 great post, thanks. just bought your book...looking forward to reading it. anyway, I'm just waiting for the launch of "Christian Idol" :-) great post, thanks. just bought your book…looking forward to reading it.

anyway, I’m just waiting for the launch of “Christian Idol” :-)

]]> By: Gabriel Gagnon http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7312 Gabriel Gagnon Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:34:44 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7312 Hey Bob, I was wondering if you could have a post on Hillsong, and the influence that they have in the Christian community, or what's good or bad about it. Thanks, it's just because I was reading the comments and they seemed to not be on the right track and one of my friends left Québec to go study at their school, so I would like to be aware of the things that are happening there. Hey Bob, I was wondering if you could have a post on Hillsong, and the influence that they have in the Christian community, or what’s good or bad about it.
Thanks, it’s just because I was reading the comments and they seemed to not be on the right track and one of my friends left Québec to go study at their school, so I would like to be aware of the things that are happening there.

]]> By: John C http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7302 John C Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:52:59 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7302 There is some interesting "behind the scenes" stories from the shout to the lord story and american idol here http://www.joshharris.com/2008/04/inside_scoop_on_shout_to_the_l.php with some actual stories from people behind the scenes at FOX as well as some band members from the show - many whom are Christians and having strong influence there I guess. There is some interesting “behind the scenes” stories from the shout to the lord story and american idol here http://www.joshharris.com/2008/04/inside_scoop_on_shout_to_the_l.php with some actual stories from people behind the scenes at FOX as well as some band members from the show - many whom are Christians and having strong influence there I guess.

]]> By: American Idol and Shout to the Lord at Ray Fowler .org http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7299 American Idol and Shout to the Lord at Ray Fowler .org Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:05:58 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7299 [...] Pastor and professional musician Bob Kauflin over at Worship Matters posted some positive thoughts on what happened as well as some concerns. [...] [...] Pastor and professional musician Bob Kauflin over at Worship Matters posted some positive thoughts on what happened as well as some concerns. [...]

]]> By: Worthey Brisco http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7297 Worthey Brisco Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:26:02 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7297 Bob, thanks for the response. You're right about my comments being judgmental, but I wasn't clear about my intended target. I'm not suggesting any form of snobbery by those who would ask questions, I was aiming more toward those who would question the right/propriety of AI singers to even perform this song or, as some have done, to even lambast the song itself (and, thus, its being presented) for what they determine to be "shortcomings." Belief their is a distinct difference in questioning the possible impact/effect (which I do not oppose), and questioning the very right for AI to have even done the song. That was my beef .... Perhaps snobbery is a poor word choice ... Bob, what word would you use to describe someone who's view on worship music is such that they would desire to limit the singing of any "Christian" song to a select number of people (of their choosing/approval, of course), in a select venue (again, of their choosing/approval), and for the "right" reason (yep, of their choosing/approval)? A quick run through the postings here indicate that there's a strong propensity for some to have proffered at least one of these "filters," while others seem to have hit them all ... Bob, thanks for the response. You’re right about my comments being judgmental, but I wasn’t clear about my intended target. I’m not suggesting any form of snobbery by those who would ask questions, I was aiming more toward those who would question the right/propriety of AI singers to even perform this song or, as some have done, to even lambast the song itself (and, thus, its being presented) for what they determine to be “shortcomings.” Belief their is a distinct difference in questioning the possible impact/effect (which I do not oppose), and questioning the very right for AI to have even done the song. That was my beef ….

Perhaps snobbery is a poor word choice … Bob, what word would you use to describe someone who’s view on worship music is such that they would desire to limit the singing of any “Christian” song to a select number of people (of their choosing/approval, of course), in a select venue (again, of their choosing/approval), and for the “right” reason (yep, of their choosing/approval)?

A quick run through the postings here indicate that there’s a strong propensity for some to have proffered at least one of these “filters,” while others seem to have hit them all …

]]> By: Mark http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7294 Mark Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:05:46 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/04/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/#comment-7294 Exodus 32 - the mixture of Baal idol worship with the worship of Yahweh God was not happy about it then. I do not think He likes it now either. Jesus is LORD alonside of American IDOL. Is this a blessed dichotomy or a clear contradiction? Is a diluted Gospel really 'good news'? Exodus 32