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	<title>Comments on: Keith and Kristyn Getty</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Beat Attitude</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/02/the-joy-of-serving-with-keith-and-kristyn-getty/#comment-6279</link>
		<dc:creator>Beat Attitude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob. Since your guest posts on 9marks I figured I should check out your own site and say hello!

Keith is a gifted songwriter and I hope that his ministry continues to glorify God as he and his wife develop in it. I recently did one of his songs "Jesus draw me ever nearer" with the New Scottish Folk Sessions band on a UK TV show called Songs of Praise. (Keith is actually an old acquaintance of the New Scottish director Jason McAuley).

 I feel that much of his music has a strong celtic/traditional influence, and am interested to know whether that style is popular in your own country within the CCM genre, or whether these celtic ballads need to be "popped up" for general consumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob. Since your guest posts on 9marks I figured I should check out your own site and say hello!</p>
<p>Keith is a gifted songwriter and I hope that his ministry continues to glorify God as he and his wife develop in it. I recently did one of his songs &#8220;Jesus draw me ever nearer&#8221; with the New Scottish Folk Sessions band on a UK TV show called Songs of Praise. (Keith is actually an old acquaintance of the New Scottish director Jason McAuley).</p>
<p> I feel that much of his music has a strong celtic/traditional influence, and am interested to know whether that style is popular in your own country within the CCM genre, or whether these celtic ballads need to be &#8220;popped up&#8221; for general consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kauflin</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/02/the-joy-of-serving-with-keith-and-kristyn-getty/#comment-6131</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kauflin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maria,

The only place the Getty Communion hymn is currently available is in the musical, The Risen Christ. It's available at http://www.clearcallmusic.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria,</p>
<p>The only place the Getty Communion hymn is currently available is in the musical, The Risen Christ. It&#8217;s available at <a href="http://www.clearcallmusic.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.clearcallmusic.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob,

I have come to appreciate the music of the Getty's very much as well.  When looking through their website, there are some songs that do not have a recording.  In particular, I'm really interested in learning "Behold the Lamb (Communion Hymn)" but don't know how to find a recording or sheet music. Can you suggest where I can look?

Thanks in advance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>I have come to appreciate the music of the Getty&#8217;s very much as well.  When looking through their website, there are some songs that do not have a recording.  In particular, I&#8217;m really interested in learning &#8220;Behold the Lamb (Communion Hymn)&#8221; but don&#8217;t know how to find a recording or sheet music. Can you suggest where I can look?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kauflin</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2008/02/the-joy-of-serving-with-keith-and-kristyn-getty/#comment-6102</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kauflin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

Great questions. On the topic of what key to sing a song in, we went with the keys Keith and Kristyn typically use, to serve them. If I felt they were too low, we would have changed the keys. But we never dropped below an Ab. They actually do In Christ Alone in Eb and E, which starts a half step high than the key we normally start with.

The decision about having the CD table in the lobby was something we had to think through. Because we're enthused about the songs the Getty's write, we wanted to make them available to folks. But we invited people to meet Keith and Kristyn after the meeting, and mentioned they'd be at the CD table. We wanted to downplay the "sales" aspect. 

I don't think Jesus was outlawing all sales in a church building in John 2:13-17 and Matthew 21:12-13. He was addressing those who used God's temple as a means of making a profit. The books and music we sell are a meant to enrich the spiritual lives of the people who buy them. We sell things almost at or below cost to provide ongoing training for the church and as a means of serving them.

Let me know if you have any other thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>Great questions. On the topic of what key to sing a song in, we went with the keys Keith and Kristyn typically use, to serve them. If I felt they were too low, we would have changed the keys. But we never dropped below an Ab. They actually do In Christ Alone in Eb and E, which starts a half step high than the key we normally start with.</p>
<p>The decision about having the CD table in the lobby was something we had to think through. Because we&#8217;re enthused about the songs the Getty&#8217;s write, we wanted to make them available to folks. But we invited people to meet Keith and Kristyn after the meeting, and mentioned they&#8217;d be at the CD table. We wanted to downplay the &#8220;sales&#8221; aspect. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Jesus was outlawing all sales in a church building in  <a href="javascript://" title="Show/Hide Scripture" onclick="showhide_esv('scripturizer485678079');">John 2:13-17</a><span id="scripturizer485678079" style="border-color: grey; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 5px; white-space: pre; display: none; padding: 5px; color: grey">John 2:13-17<br />
   [13]The Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went<br />
up to Jerusalem. [14]In the temple he found those who were<br />
selling oxen and sheep and pigeons, and the money-changers<br />
sitting there. [15]And making a whip of cords, he drove<br />
them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he<br />
poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned<br />
their tables. [16]And he told those who sold the pigeons,<br />
"Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a<br />
house of trade." [17]His disciples remembered that it was<br />
written, "Zeal for your house will consume me." (ESV)
<div style="text-align: right; font-size: 9px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><a href="http://www.esv.org/">This text is from the ESV Bible. Visit www.esv.org to learn about the ESV.</a></div>
<p></span> and  <a href="javascript://" title="Show/Hide Scripture" onclick="showhide_esv('scripturizer1362443811');">Matthew 21:12-13</a><span id="scripturizer1362443811" style="border-color: grey; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 5px; white-space: pre; display: none; padding: 5px; color: grey">Matthew 21:12-13<br />
   [12]And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who<br />
sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables<br />
of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold<br />
pigeons. [13]He said to them, "It is written, 'My house<br />
shall be called a house of prayer,' but you make it a den<br />
of robbers." (ESV)
<div style="text-align: right; font-size: 9px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><a href="http://www.esv.org/">This text is from the ESV Bible. Visit www.esv.org to learn about the ESV.</a></div>
<p></span>. He was addressing those who used God&#8217;s temple as a means of making a profit. The books and music we sell are a meant to enrich the spiritual lives of the people who buy them. We sell things almost at or below cost to provide ongoing training for the church and as a means of serving them.</p>
<p>Let me know if you have any other thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob,

I appreciated having the Gettys at church on Sunday, as did my wife.  Chesapeake had done "Speak O Lord" shortly before I left, and it was good to sing it again.  

I'm also encouraged that you're aware of the temptations of having artists perform during church.  I'm still processing through some of these ideas myself, but I wanted to ask a couple of things that have been on my mind.  

First, it felt to me that many of the songs were lower (in key) than we sing them normally.  My wife loved this; she could actually sing the songs comfortably.  On the other hand, I got to experience things from her end: I had trouble deciding in which octave to sing, particularly on "Speak O Lord."  Were these songs modulated to a lower key?  If so, what should one be thinking when trying to match the comfort range of solo vocalists versus the congregation?  Of course, I'm getting over a cold, too, so maybe I was just off.  I can't find a real scriptural precedent here: perhaps you know one.

Second, one of the things that has always been a question in my mind is when the church sells things--this would include the bookstore, but also the CD table that the Gettys had.  I think Jesus had something else in mind in John 2:13-17, Matthew 21:12-13, etc, but it's always been something that has given me pause, even though I've been the beneficiary of many low cost books from our bookstore.  What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks for thinking about this and for having a such a great heart to glorify our Savior.

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>I appreciated having the Gettys at church on Sunday, as did my wife.  Chesapeake had done &#8220;Speak O Lord&#8221; shortly before I left, and it was good to sing it again.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also encouraged that you&#8217;re aware of the temptations of having artists perform during church.  I&#8217;m still processing through some of these ideas myself, but I wanted to ask a couple of things that have been on my mind.  </p>
<p>First, it felt to me that many of the songs were lower (in key) than we sing them normally.  My wife loved this; she could actually sing the songs comfortably.  On the other hand, I got to experience things from her end: I had trouble deciding in which octave to sing, particularly on &#8220;Speak O Lord.&#8221;  Were these songs modulated to a lower key?  If so, what should one be thinking when trying to match the comfort range of solo vocalists versus the congregation?  Of course, I&#8217;m getting over a cold, too, so maybe I was just off.  I can&#8217;t find a real scriptural precedent here: perhaps you know one.</p>
<p>Second, one of the things that has always been a question in my mind is when the church sells things&#8211;this would include the bookstore, but also the CD table that the Gettys had.  I think Jesus had something else in mind in  <a href="javascript://" title="Show/Hide Scripture" onclick="showhide_esv('scripturizer508573826');">John 2:13-17</a><span id="scripturizer508573826" style="border-color: grey; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 5px; white-space: pre; display: none; padding: 5px; color: grey">John 2:13-17<br />
   [13]The Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went<br />
up to Jerusalem. [14]In the temple he found those who were<br />
selling oxen and sheep and pigeons, and the money-changers<br />
sitting there. [15]And making a whip of cords, he drove<br />
them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he<br />
poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned<br />
their tables. [16]And he told those who sold the pigeons,<br />
"Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a<br />
house of trade." [17]His disciples remembered that it was<br />
written, "Zeal for your house will consume me." (ESV)
<div style="text-align: right; font-size: 9px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><a href="http://www.esv.org/">This text is from the ESV Bible. Visit www.esv.org to learn about the ESV.</a></div>
<p></span>,  <a href="javascript://" title="Show/Hide Scripture" onclick="showhide_esv('scripturizer1889913433');">Matthew 21:12-13</a><span id="scripturizer1889913433" style="border-color: grey; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 5px; white-space: pre; display: none; padding: 5px; color: grey">Matthew 21:12-13<br />
   [12]And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who<br />
sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables<br />
of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold<br />
pigeons. [13]He said to them, "It is written, 'My house<br />
shall be called a house of prayer,' but you make it a den<br />
of robbers." (ESV)
<div style="text-align: right; font-size: 9px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><a href="http://www.esv.org/">This text is from the ESV Bible. Visit www.esv.org to learn about the ESV.</a></div>
<p></span>, etc, but it&#8217;s always been something that has given me pause, even though I&#8217;ve been the beneficiary of many low cost books from our bookstore.  What are your thoughts on this?</p>
<p>Thanks for thinking about this and for having a such a great heart to glorify our Savior.</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kauflin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Kauflin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig,

The link to How Great You Are is fixed. It's a guitar chart, though, not a lead sheet. Thanks for letting me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,</p>
<p>The link to How Great You Are is fixed. It&#8217;s a guitar chart, though, not a lead sheet. Thanks for letting me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link to the lead sheet for "How Great You Are" is not available.  Could you repost the link so that those of us that missed it the first time can have a copy?
Thank you,
Craig Johnson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link to the lead sheet for &#8220;How Great You Are&#8221; is not available.  Could you repost the link so that those of us that missed it the first time can have a copy?<br />
Thank you,<br />
Craig Johnson</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kauflin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Kauflin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gabriel,

The book will be around 250 pages. If you think your friend is still interested, ask her to contact me at bob@worshipmatters.com.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabriel,</p>
<p>The book will be around 250 pages. If you think your friend is still interested, ask her to contact me at <a href="mailto:bob@worshipmatters.com">bob@worshipmatters.com</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Gagnon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel Gagnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bob, thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge, it continues to edify me and these songs are good! It's good to know about these humble artist that want to glorify Christ.
Oh and by the way for your book, there is one person I know that might be interested in translated it in French, but she would like to see how long it is first. Anyways were you planning to let translators start translating before it officially comes out, or you want to wait until it published?
Thanks!
Gabe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bob, thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge, it continues to edify me and these songs are good! It&#8217;s good to know about these humble artist that want to glorify Christ.<br />
Oh and by the way for your book, there is one person I know that might be interested in translated it in French, but she would like to see how long it is first. Anyways were you planning to let translators start translating before it officially comes out, or you want to wait until it published?<br />
Thanks!<br />
Gabe</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We've used "Speak O Lord" as a "bookend" to the Sermon.(2 vs. before and one after) What an awesome song for focusing us on the preeminence of the Word!
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve used &#8220;Speak O Lord&#8221; as a &#8220;bookend&#8221; to the Sermon.(2 vs. before and one after) What an awesome song for focusing us on the preeminence of the Word!<br />
Paul</p>
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