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	<title>Comments on: Q&#038;A Fridays - What About &#8220;Me&#8221; Songs?</title>
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		<title>By: Mike (from Ireland)</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/06/qa-fridays-what-2/#comment-1393</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike (from Ireland)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob just came across your blog by chance you have encouraged me no end. I am leading worship tomorrow and feel far from the lord yet I know that he is faithful, that his name will be praised and as you wrote that our purpose is to remind me and all those attending of who he is and what he has done to put our trust in him anew. Praise God. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob just came across your blog by chance you have encouraged me no end. I am leading worship tomorrow and feel far from the lord yet I know that he is faithful, that his name will be praised and as you wrote that our purpose is to remind me and all those attending of who he is and what he has done to put our trust in him anew. Praise God.</p>
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		<title>By: mandy</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/06/qa-fridays-what-2/#comment-1392</link>
		<dc:creator>mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes yes. the church should find a variety of ways to express a variety of feelings and thoughts spoken from a variety of hearts, but always keeping the Objective Truth as the main focus, not our personal and fickle experiences.</description>
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		<title>By: West Breedlove</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/06/qa-fridays-what-2/#comment-1391</link>
		<dc:creator>West Breedlove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bob,
In your session on "Roles and Goals of the Corporate Worship Leader" at the 2001 PDI Worship Leader's Conference, you mentioned that we're not leading people "into worship" or "into the holy of holies", but "into a fresh awareness of who God is, what he has done, and how that affects our past, present and future."  I dig this, but wonder about the holy of holies part.  

Hebrews 9-10:22 calls us to enter the Most Holy Place confidently.  John Frame says "The Most Holy Place was opened to us at the death of Christ, when the veil of the temple was torn in two" (In Spirit and Truth, 27).

If God is enthroned on and abides in the praises of his people, and if he is wherever 2 or 3 are gathered in his name, then it seems that there is an actual, spiritual experience of "entering into" the holy of holies when we gather and praise him.  That being said, it seems that we as leaders in corporate worship have a kind of priestly duty to bring God's people into his presence, his Most Holy Place, like the Israelite musicians of old.

I don't know.  Am I just way off on this?

P.S. Can I publish the other 1/3 of your book pseudonymously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bob,<br />
In your session on &#8220;Roles and Goals of the Corporate Worship Leader&#8221; at the 2001 PDI Worship Leader&#8217;s Conference, you mentioned that we&#8217;re not leading people &#8220;into worship&#8221; or &#8220;into the holy of holies&#8221;, but &#8220;into a fresh awareness of who God is, what he has done, and how that affects our past, present and future.&#8221;  I dig this, but wonder about the holy of holies part.  </p>
<p> <a href="javascript://" title="Show/Hide Scripture" onclick="showhide_esv('scripturizer73137033');">Hebrews 9-10</a><span id="scripturizer73137033" style="border-color: grey; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 5px; white-space: pre; display: none; padding: 5px; color: grey">Hebrews 9-10<br />
   [9:1]Now even the first covenant had regulations for<br />
worship and an earthly place of holiness. [2]For a tent was<br />
prepared, the first section, in which were the lampstand<br />
and the table and the bread of the Presence. It is called<br />
the Holy Place. [3]Behind the second curtain was a second<br />
section called the Most Holy Place, [4]having the golden<br />
altar of incense and the ark of the covenant covered on all<br />
sides with gold, in which was a golden urn holding the<br />
manna, and Aaron's staff that budded, and the tablets of<br />
the covenant. [5]Above it were the cherubim of glory<br />
overshadowing the mercy seat. Of these things we cannot now<br />
speak in detail.<br />
   [6]These preparations having thus been made, the priests<br />
go regularly into the first section, performing their<br />
ritual duties, [7]but into the second only the high priest<br />
goes, and he but once a year, and not without taking blood,<br />
which he offers for himself and for the unintentional sins<br />
of the people. [8]By this the Holy Spirit indicates that<br />
the way into the holy places is not yet opened as long as<br />
the first section is still standing [9](which is symbolic<br />
for the present age). According to this arrangement, gifts<br />
and sacrifices are offered that cannot perfect the<br />
conscience of the worshiper, [10]but deal only with food<br />
and drink and various washings, regulations for the body<br />
imposed until the time of reformation.<br />
   [11]But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the<br />
good things that have come, then through the greater and<br />
more perfect tent (not made with hands, that is, not of<br />
this creation) [12]he entered once for all into the holy<br />
places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but<br />
by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal<br />
redemption. [13]For if the blood of goats and bulls, and<br />
the sprinkling of defiled persons with the ashes of a<br />
heifer, sanctify for the purification of the flesh, [14]how<br />
much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal<br />
Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our<br />
conscience from dead works to serve the living God.<br />
   [15]Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so<br />
that those who are called may receive the promised eternal<br />
inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them<br />
from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.<br />
[16]For where a will is involved, the death of the one who<br />
made it must be established. [17]For a will takes effect<br />
only at death, since it is not in force as long as the one<br />
who made it is alive. [18]Therefore not even the first<br />
covenant was inaugurated without blood. [19]For when every<br />
commandment of the law had been declared by Moses to all<br />
the people, he took the blood of calves and goats, with<br />
water and scarlet wool and hyssop, and sprinkled both the<br />
book itself and all the people, [20]saying, "This is the<br />
blood of the covenant that God commanded for you." [21]And<br />
in the same way he sprinkled with the blood both the tent<br />
and all the vessels used in worship. [22]Indeed, under the<br />
law almost everything is purified with blood, and without<br />
the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.<br />
   [23]Thus it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly<br />
things to be purified with these rites, but the heavenly<br />
things themselves with better sacrifices than these.<br />
[24]For Christ has entered, not into holy places made with<br />
hands, which are copies of the true things, but into heaven<br />
itself, now to appear in the presence of God on our behalf.<br />
[25]Nor was it to offer himself repeatedly, as the high<br />
priest enters the holy places every year with blood not his<br />
own, [26]for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly<br />
since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has<br />
appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away<br />
sin by the sacrifice of himself. [27]And just as it is<br />
appointed for man to die once, and after that comes<br />
judgment, [28]so Christ, having been offered once to bear<br />
the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal<br />
with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.<br />
   [10:1]For since the law has but a shadow of the good<br />
things to come instead of the true form of these realities,<br />
it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually<br />
offered every year, make perfect those who draw near.<br />
[2]Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered,<br />
since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no<br />
longer have any consciousness of sins? [3]But in these<br />
sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. [4]For<br />
it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take<br />
away sins.<br />
   [5]Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he<br />
said,<br />
  "Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired,<br />
    but a body have you prepared for me;<br />
  [6]in burnt offerings and sin offerings<br />
    you have taken no pleasure.<br />
  [7]Then I said, 'Behold, I have come to do your will, O<br />
     God,<br />
    as it is written of me in the scroll of the book.'"<br />
[8]When he said above, "You have neither desired nor taken<br />
pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings<br />
and sin offerings" (these are offered according to the<br />
law), [9]then he added, "Behold, I have come to do your<br />
will." He does away with the first in order to establish<br />
the second. [10]And by that will we have been sanctified<br />
through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for<br />
all.<br />
   [11]And every priest stands daily at his service,<br />
offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never<br />
take away sins. [12]But when Christ had offered for all<br />
time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right<br />
hand of God, [13]waiting from that time until his enemies<br />
should be made a footstool for his feet. [14]For by a<br />
single offering he has perfected for all time those who are<br />
being sanctified.<br />
   [15]And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for<br />
after saying,<br />
  [16]"This is the covenant that I will make with them<br />
    after those days, declares the Lord:<br />
  I will put my laws on their hearts,<br />
    and write them on their minds,"<br />
[17]then he adds,<br />
  "I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no<br />
     more."<br />
[18]Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer<br />
any offering for sin.<br />
   [19]Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to<br />
enter the holy places by the blood of Jesus, [20]by the new<br />
and living way that he opened for us through the curtain,<br />
that is, through his flesh, [21]and since we have a great<br />
priest over the house of God, [22]let us draw near with a<br />
true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts<br />
sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies<br />
washed with pure water. [23]Let us hold fast the confession<br />
of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is<br />
faithful. [24]And let us consider how to stir up one<br />
another to love and good works, [25]not neglecting to meet<br />
together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one<br />
another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.<br />
   [26]For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving<br />
the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a<br />
sacrifice for sins, [27]but a fearful expectation of<br />
judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the<br />
adversaries. [28]Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses<br />
dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three<br />
witnesses. [29]How much worse punishment, do you think,<br />
will be deserved by the one who has spurned the Son of God,<br />
and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was<br />
sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace? [30]For<br />
we know him who said, "Vengeance is mine; I will repay."<br />
And again, "The Lord will judge his people." [31]It is a<br />
fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.<br />
   [32]But recall the former days when, after you were<br />
enlightened, you endured a hard struggle with sufferings,<br />
[33]sometimes being publicly exposed to reproach and<br />
affliction, and sometimes being partners with those so<br />
treated. [34]For you had compassion on those in prison, and<br />
you joyfully accepted the plundering of your property,<br />
since you knew that you yourselves had a better possession<br />
and an abiding one. [35]Therefore do not throw away your<br />
confidence, which has a great reward. [36]For you have need<br />
of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God<br />
you may receive what is promised. [37]For,<br />
  "Yet a little while,<br />
    and the coming one will come and will not delay;<br />
  [38]but my righteous one shall live by faith,<br />
    and if he shrinks back,<br />
  my soul has no pleasure in him."<br />
[39]But we are not of those who shrink back and are<br />
destroyed, but of those who have faith and preserve their<br />
souls. (ESV)
<div style="text-align: right; font-size: 9px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><a href="http://www.esv.org/">This text is from the ESV Bible. Visit www.esv.org to learn about the ESV.</a></div>
<p></span>:22 calls us to enter the Most Holy Place confidently.  John Frame says &#8220;The Most Holy Place was opened to us at the death of Christ, when the veil of the temple was torn in two&#8221; (In Spirit and Truth, 27).</p>
<p>If God is enthroned on and abides in the praises of his people, and if he is wherever 2 or 3 are gathered in his name, then it seems that there is an actual, spiritual experience of &#8220;entering into&#8221; the holy of holies when we gather and praise him.  That being said, it seems that we as leaders in corporate worship have a kind of priestly duty to bring God&#8217;s people into his presence, his Most Holy Place, like the Israelite musicians of old.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  Am I just way off on this?</p>
<p>P.S. Can I publish the other 1/3 of your book pseudonymously?</p>
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		<title>By: pete t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what?!? we'll take the other 1/3 here!! :D</description>
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		<title>By: Cap Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/06/qa-fridays-what-2/#comment-1389</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crossway wants you to cut a third of the book out? Yikes! That’s like asking someone to decide which of his three children he wants to donate to science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crossway wants you to cut a third of the book out? Yikes! That’s like asking someone to decide which of his three children he wants to donate to science.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking forward to the book.  I hope the cuts are streamlining, not cuts in content. For most of us in the worship ministry, less is not necessarily more.  :-)</description>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 01:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to hear that someone else has been pondering stuff like this, just as I have.</description>
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		<title>By: Marshall Stoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall Stoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob - thanks for those explanitory interjections.  It so helps to focus people.  Much more meaningful than the oft heard "Here we go".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob - thanks for those explanitory interjections.  It so helps to focus people.  Much more meaningful than the oft heard &#8220;Here we go&#8221;.</p>
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