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	<description>Resources for Leading Worship from Bob Kauflin</description>
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		<title>By: Claire Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/03/book-update-and/#comment-1914</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob,
I just came across your blog whilst doing research for a seminar on worship and what needs challenged in this world of modern worship.  I have found both your thoughts and the comments very insightful.  I am a worship leader from N.Ireland so it's great to connect with others across the world.
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Claire Hamilton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob,<br />
I just came across your blog whilst doing research for a seminar on worship and what needs challenged in this world of modern worship.  I have found both your thoughts and the comments very insightful.  I am a worship leader from N.Ireland so it&#8217;s great to connect with others across the world.<br />
Thanks<br />
Claire Hamilton</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/03/book-update-and/#comment-1249</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 15:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

Several people have mentioned the difference between or even a blend of both traditional and contemporary worship music. How are those terms defined? By style, by use, personal preference or other criteria? Is there a hard line on what consitutes each? When or can something move from traditional to contemporary worship? Do those terms extend to other forms of worship like servanthood or evanglism?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>Several people have mentioned the difference between or even a blend of both traditional and contemporary worship music. How are those terms defined? By style, by use, personal preference or other criteria? Is there a hard line on what consitutes each? When or can something move from traditional to contemporary worship? Do those terms extend to other forms of worship like servanthood or evanglism?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/03/book-update-and/#comment-1248</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 01:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that one of the most difficult issues I face is not in the congregation, but in me.  Rather than pleasing people, I must make sure that I am seeking to please God above all else.  I think the temptation to 'keep the peace' and just play the favorites (whether that means Holy, Holy, Holy; Solid Rock; Shout to the Lord; or the newest song from the radio) is dangerously attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that one of the most difficult issues I face is not in the congregation, but in me.  Rather than pleasing people, I must make sure that I am seeking to please God above all else.  I think the temptation to &#8216;keep the peace&#8217; and just play the favorites (whether that means Holy, Holy, Holy; Solid Rock; Shout to the Lord; or the newest song from the radio) is dangerously attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/03/book-update-and/#comment-1247</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my biggest struggles as a corporate worship leader has to do with managing and shepherding the individual members of our team toward our common worship goals, when we all speak different languages musically.

Our worship includes psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs both old and new.  And our style is a blend of traditional and contemporary.

Half of the musicians on our team are classically trained.  They are pretty tied to sheet music.  The other half play by ear.  They can only play with chord charts.

We are slowly growing in our musical abilities and appreciation for one another.  But it is rather difficult at times to blend the different musical backgrounds into a cohesive unit.  So any magical solutions that you might know of would be really helpful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my biggest struggles as a corporate worship leader has to do with managing and shepherding the individual members of our team toward our common worship goals, when we all speak different languages musically.</p>
<p>Our worship includes psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs both old and new.  And our style is a blend of traditional and contemporary.</p>
<p>Half of the musicians on our team are classically trained.  They are pretty tied to sheet music.  The other half play by ear.  They can only play with chord charts.</p>
<p>We are slowly growing in our musical abilities and appreciation for one another.  But it is rather difficult at times to blend the different musical backgrounds into a cohesive unit.  So any magical solutions that you might know of would be really helpful!</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/03/book-update-and/#comment-1246</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, let me say that I am very excited to read your new book.

As far as struggles, my main trouble involved the commitment and lack of commitment of musicians, particularly youth musicians.  My primary responsibility is with our 2 youth teams, and kids are VERY BUSY - I run into the problem that some of our kid's are simply stretched way too thin and find it hard to make it to rehearsal regularly, and sometimes actually bail (without prior notification) on their responsibilities altogether at the last minute ("I've got a paper due first thing in the morning"), which really throws a wrench in what is otherwise (without cancellations) a top-notch team.  I've tried implementing rotations to make it easier on my musicians/vocalist, but then they tend to plug into other youth groups that need them more, yet let them come and go as they please.  Maybe I've set my standard too high, but I feel that 1.) God deserves our best and 2.) bad music can be a hindrance to people focusing on God during our worship time.  So, I guess the struggle comes down to what sort of expectations we should put on a volunteer team, especially busy students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me say that I am very excited to read your new book.</p>
<p>As far as struggles, my main trouble involved the commitment and lack of commitment of musicians, particularly youth musicians.  My primary responsibility is with our 2 youth teams, and kids are VERY BUSY - I run into the problem that some of our kid&#8217;s are simply stretched way too thin and find it hard to make it to rehearsal regularly, and sometimes actually bail (without prior notification) on their responsibilities altogether at the last minute (&#8221;I&#8217;ve got a paper due first thing in the morning&#8221;), which really throws a wrench in what is otherwise (without cancellations) a top-notch team.  I&#8217;ve tried implementing rotations to make it easier on my musicians/vocalist, but then they tend to plug into other youth groups that need them more, yet let them come and go as they please.  Maybe I&#8217;ve set my standard too high, but I feel that 1.) God deserves our best and 2.) bad music can be a hindrance to people focusing on God during our worship time.  So, I guess the struggle comes down to what sort of expectations we should put on a volunteer team, especially busy students.</p>
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		<title>By: scott d</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/03/book-update-and/#comment-1245</link>
		<dc:creator>scott d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a leader, I must be careful not to "play" with the emotions of my congregation.  Sometimes the "Holy Spirit" that I say I feel during a time of praise feels identical to the chills I get when I listen to a U2 or Coldplay song that captures my emotions.  As a musician, I know that if I crescendo here with a big electric guitar swell or insert a stacatto stop part there with thundering drums and sudden silence, I could give my audience an emotional high.  Especially considering many in the congregation are looking for those "chills" that they got back when they first met Christ.  

At my church, we have very powerful times of praise some weeks, and not so intense times of praise during other weeks.  I need to be careful and check myself every time I step on that stage to make sure I'm not bastardizing the time of praise into just another Sunday morning high.  It's about praising the One who is worthy, not the high we sometimes get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a leader, I must be careful not to &#8220;play&#8221; with the emotions of my congregation.  Sometimes the &#8220;Holy Spirit&#8221; that I say I feel during a time of praise feels identical to the chills I get when I listen to a U2 or Coldplay song that captures my emotions.  As a musician, I know that if I crescendo here with a big electric guitar swell or insert a stacatto stop part there with thundering drums and sudden silence, I could give my audience an emotional high.  Especially considering many in the congregation are looking for those &#8220;chills&#8221; that they got back when they first met Christ.  </p>
<p>At my church, we have very powerful times of praise some weeks, and not so intense times of praise during other weeks.  I need to be careful and check myself every time I step on that stage to make sure I&#8217;m not bastardizing the time of praise into just another Sunday morning high.  It&#8217;s about praising the One who is worthy, not the high we sometimes get.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Tuttle</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/03/book-update-and/#comment-1244</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Tuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,
I am 24 years old and have been leading the youth in worship at my church for about 7 years and a year ago last October I have been the interim worship leader at my church on Sundays. A current concern that I have for my church is not necessarily what we sing (which, that can create problems but they have already been addressed above)but rather I am concerned about the heart of the worshipper. It has come to my attention that whenever a song is criticized for reasons other than content that I can only come to the conclusion that it is criticized for the wrong reasons and with wrong motive. How, as a worship leader, can I convey to the congregation what it is a heart of worship should look like? Is it my duty or that of the senior pastor? Is it my place to say something instead of sing something? What is the proper way of doing this? Calling worshippers to worship God beginning with their hearts rather than their voice is something I would love to read about and get advice on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,<br />
I am 24 years old and have been leading the youth in worship at my church for about 7 years and a year ago last October I have been the interim worship leader at my church on Sundays. A current concern that I have for my church is not necessarily what we sing (which, that can create problems but they have already been addressed above)but rather I am concerned about the heart of the worshipper. It has come to my attention that whenever a song is criticized for reasons other than content that I can only come to the conclusion that it is criticized for the wrong reasons and with wrong motive. How, as a worship leader, can I convey to the congregation what it is a heart of worship should look like? Is it my duty or that of the senior pastor? Is it my place to say something instead of sing something? What is the proper way of doing this? Calling worshippers to worship God beginning with their hearts rather than their voice is something I would love to read about and get advice on.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Wyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/03/book-update-and/#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Wyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've determined that the foundational issue that I have had in any challenge as a worship leader stems from man's natural instinct to be self-centered.  We are wrong to think that our self-centeredness does not extend into worship preferences.  We prefer to sing songs that we like, regardless of style.  I know just as many people who are prudish about their 'contemporary' music as some are about their 'traditional.'  

The most difficult challenge we face (or at least I face) as a worship leader is helping, leading, and guiding my brothers and sisters on a journey in worship that has as its end result a bigger picture of God, a greater love for Him, and a greater desire for His glory.  It is a challenge to lead people in something that should ultimately deny every selfish instinct in us when we live in a selfish world.

The greatest challenge is not navigating the worship wars, hoping that in the end Jesus is glorified and we don't have too many casualties.  The greatest challenge is helping our people (and ourselves as well) to understand that worship is not contemporary or traditional, or even music for that matter, but rather it is adoring, bowing down to, and treasuring an infinite God who has redeemed us.

We must pray that God would release us of our selfish ways in worship.  We too often want to meet God on our own terms instead of glorying and delighting ourselves in Him.   

In terms of how to address this problem: 1) It comes in teaching. 2) It comes in the way we lead and the words we speak while leading 3) It is reinforced in the music we select 4) It is ultimately combated with instilling in people a big view of God rooted in the truth of His Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve determined that the foundational issue that I have had in any challenge as a worship leader stems from man&#8217;s natural instinct to be self-centered.  We are wrong to think that our self-centeredness does not extend into worship preferences.  We prefer to sing songs that we like, regardless of style.  I know just as many people who are prudish about their &#8216;contemporary&#8217; music as some are about their &#8216;traditional.&#8217;  </p>
<p>The most difficult challenge we face (or at least I face) as a worship leader is helping, leading, and guiding my brothers and sisters on a journey in worship that has as its end result a bigger picture of God, a greater love for Him, and a greater desire for His glory.  It is a challenge to lead people in something that should ultimately deny every selfish instinct in us when we live in a selfish world.</p>
<p>The greatest challenge is not navigating the worship wars, hoping that in the end Jesus is glorified and we don&#8217;t have too many casualties.  The greatest challenge is helping our people (and ourselves as well) to understand that worship is not contemporary or traditional, or even music for that matter, but rather it is adoring, bowing down to, and treasuring an infinite God who has redeemed us.</p>
<p>We must pray that God would release us of our selfish ways in worship.  We too often want to meet God on our own terms instead of glorying and delighting ourselves in Him.   </p>
<p>In terms of how to address this problem: 1) It comes in teaching. 2) It comes in the way we lead and the words we speak while leading 3) It is reinforced in the music we select 4) It is ultimately combated with instilling in people a big view of God rooted in the truth of His Word.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/03/book-update-and/#comment-1242</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the challenges for me is reflected in a sermon Mike Bullmore gave at a Sovereign Grace conference last year - "The Functional Centrality of the Gospel".  He talked about how one of the key signals of Christian maturity is reflected in one's ability to make "gospel connections".  I would LOVE to hear that message expanded upon, with illustrations, diagrams, and whatever else I can get my hands on to better understand how to intentionally pursue greater gospel-centeredness in my thinking and pastoral care in the setting of worship leading.

Related issue - it is so easy to continue to default to thinking of the worship time as being successful or not based on how many hands were raised, how many intense faces, surging shouts, open singing, etc.  For those of us who come out of less doctrinally grounded charismatic backgrounds, subjectivism dies hard.  I'd benefit greatly from a treatment of what post-worship evaluation should look like in light of the overarching priorities of what we're aiming at as we lead God's people in worsship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the challenges for me is reflected in a sermon Mike Bullmore gave at a Sovereign Grace conference last year - &#8220;The Functional Centrality of the Gospel&#8221;.  He talked about how one of the key signals of Christian maturity is reflected in one&#8217;s ability to make &#8220;gospel connections&#8221;.  I would LOVE to hear that message expanded upon, with illustrations, diagrams, and whatever else I can get my hands on to better understand how to intentionally pursue greater gospel-centeredness in my thinking and pastoral care in the setting of worship leading.</p>
<p>Related issue - it is so easy to continue to default to thinking of the worship time as being successful or not based on how many hands were raised, how many intense faces, surging shouts, open singing, etc.  For those of us who come out of less doctrinally grounded charismatic backgrounds, subjectivism dies hard.  I&#8217;d benefit greatly from a treatment of what post-worship evaluation should look like in light of the overarching priorities of what we&#8217;re aiming at as we lead God&#8217;s people in worsship.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2007/03/book-update-and/#comment-1241</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

Being the worship pastor at a church of about 250, my constant struggle is recruiting enough volunteers to create any amount of depth in the ministry.  Our church is an area outside metro Phoenix - the average age of our church attenders is 50, and the area has historically been more of a retirement community.  Like any church we gain some new folks, and then lose some for various reasons.  Right now we have one full team, but if one person is sick, or out-of-town, we feel it acutely.  One band member leaves for the entire summer.
We do have some younger musicians who are talented and who I am mentoring and trying to involve more, but they are still too young to be regular participants.  I also have been told that maybe my standards are too high, but I don't believe it's helpful to lower standards just to add more warm bodies.  I'd be willing to work with all levels of talent, as long as their hearts are rightly motivated. 
SO, we make announcements from the front, in PowerPoint announcements, in emails, etc.  I encourage my team to pray for God to provide and to keep their eyes and ears open to possible candidates.  I even have some "spies" in the congregation who take note of those who sing well on Sundays.  BUT, is it just a matter of being content with what God has provided, praying more earnestly?  I am not a fan of paying musicians on a regular basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>Being the worship pastor at a church of about 250, my constant struggle is recruiting enough volunteers to create any amount of depth in the ministry.  Our church is an area outside metro Phoenix - the average age of our church attenders is 50, and the area has historically been more of a retirement community.  Like any church we gain some new folks, and then lose some for various reasons.  Right now we have one full team, but if one person is sick, or out-of-town, we feel it acutely.  One band member leaves for the entire summer.<br />
We do have some younger musicians who are talented and who I am mentoring and trying to involve more, but they are still too young to be regular participants.  I also have been told that maybe my standards are too high, but I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s helpful to lower standards just to add more warm bodies.  I&#8217;d be willing to work with all levels of talent, as long as their hearts are rightly motivated.<br />
SO, we make announcements from the front, in PowerPoint announcements, in emails, etc.  I encourage my team to pray for God to provide and to keep their eyes and ears open to possible candidates.  I even have some &#8220;spies&#8221; in the congregation who take note of those who sing well on Sundays.  BUT, is it just a matter of being content with what God has provided, praying more earnestly?  I am not a fan of paying musicians on a regular basis.</p>
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