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		<title>By: Bill McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 04:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also wanted to share another Christmas-themed observation I received that gave a fresh breath (for me anyway) to an old carol. While listening to the ever-familiar The First Noel, it suddenly dawned on me (much like a sky full of angels) that, as the first line states, the first noel (which means Christmas carol and is from the root word - 'natal'  which refers to birth), the angel did say, was to certain poor shepherds. And it occurred to me (though I have been singing this song for all of my known life) that this had profound significance. The fact that the very first official announcement of the birth of Messiah, Christ, by the official messengers of the biological (if you can really use that term in this context) father, (that being, THEee Heavenly Father, Numero Uno of the triune God Head) was indeed being delivered to shepherds. 
Now Ive always understood that most people think that this is significant because these were the common people, of humble origins and existence. Which fits in with the theme that though He be a king in His own right, Jesus did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made Himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, He humbled himself -ESV
Though this is absolutely true and accurate, I think that a deeper pertinence is not so much the station in life of those receiving the announcement , but rather the correlation of the object of the announcement to those receiving it. The announcement was about the birth of a lamb, THEee Lamb of God, who is Himself also a shepherd. Who better to announce it to first than a bunch of shepherds (common though they might be).

By the way, still flying high from the WorshipGod '06 conference. Thank you, Bob, for your excellent leadership.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also wanted to share another Christmas-themed observation I received that gave a fresh breath (for me anyway) to an old carol. While listening to the ever-familiar The First Noel, it suddenly dawned on me (much like a sky full of angels) that, as the first line states, the first noel (which means Christmas carol and is from the root word - &#8216;natal&#8217;  which refers to birth), the angel did say, was to certain poor shepherds. And it occurred to me (though I have been singing this song for all of my known life) that this had profound significance. The fact that the very first official announcement of the birth of Messiah, Christ, by the official messengers of the biological (if you can really use that term in this context) father, (that being, THEee Heavenly Father, Numero Uno of the triune God Head) was indeed being delivered to shepherds.<br />
Now Ive always understood that most people think that this is significant because these were the common people, of humble origins and existence. Which fits in with the theme that though He be a king in His own right, Jesus did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made Himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, He humbled himself -ESV<br />
Though this is absolutely true and accurate, I think that a deeper pertinence is not so much the station in life of those receiving the announcement , but rather the correlation of the object of the announcement to those receiving it. The announcement was about the birth of a lamb, THEee Lamb of God, who is Himself also a shepherd. Who better to announce it to first than a bunch of shepherds (common though they might be).</p>
<p>By the way, still flying high from the WorshipGod &#8216;06 conference. Thank you, Bob, for your excellent leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill McCarthy</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/12/thoughts-on-chr/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 04:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently received  somewhat of a revelation (not huge, but perhaps worth sharing) in the same vein as this post. 

While picking out scripture passages in preparation for our Christmas Eve evening service of lessons &#038; carols, I was struck by the correlation between the references to the “fruit” mentioned in Genesis 3 (which was the object used by man to execute disobedience toward God, leading to the ‘fall’) and that mentioned in Isaiah 1:1 which states  “There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots shall bear FRUIT” - ESV. 

Although, possibly,  the most widely accepted interpretation of this passage may be that the “branch” is the object which is referring prophetically to Jesus, and that the “fruit” would pertain to His accomplished redemptive work, I would like to offer another take. That the “branch” might be a reference to the lineage of Joseph through Jesse. Then the “fruit” which is borne (or, perhaps, even born) of the branch would be the very person of Jesus, Himself. Who could then also be referred to, metaphorically, as the new (and redeeming) “fruit” of God’s provision. 

Especially in light of the celebration of the Eucharist. We now partake, according to his positive direction to “DO this in remembrance of Me” (as opposed to “…thou shalt not eat…”), of the “fruit” of redemption. Of Jesus Himself (not to imply a doctrine of Transubstantiation). 

Much in the same way that He is referred to as the new “Adam”, perhaps Jesus might also be referred to as the new (and thereby redemptive) “fruit”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently received  somewhat of a revelation (not huge, but perhaps worth sharing) in the same vein as this post. </p>
<p>While picking out scripture passages in preparation for our Christmas Eve evening service of lessons &#038; carols, I was struck by the correlation between the references to the “fruit” mentioned in  <a href="javascript://" title="Show/Hide Scripture" onclick="showhide_esv('scripturizer1705946396');">Genesis 3</a><span id="scripturizer1705946396" style="border-color: grey; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 5px; white-space: pre; display: none; padding: 5px; color: grey">Genesis 3<br />
   [3:1]Now the serpent was more crafty than any other<br />
beast of the field that the LORD God had made.<br />
   He said to the woman, "Did God actually say, 'You shall<br />
not eat of any tree in the garden'?" [2]And the woman said<br />
to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees in<br />
the garden, [3]but God said, 'You shall not eat of the<br />
fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden,<br />
neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" [4]But the<br />
serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. [5]For<br />
God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened,<br />
and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." [6]So<br />
when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and<br />
that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to<br />
be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate,<br />
and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and<br />
he ate. [7]Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew<br />
that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together<br />
and made themselves loincloths.<br />
   [8]And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in<br />
the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife<br />
hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the<br />
trees of the garden. [9]But the LORD God called to the man<br />
and said to him, "Where are you?" [10]And he said, "I heard<br />
the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I<br />
was naked, and I hid myself." [11]He said, "Who told you<br />
that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I<br />
commanded you not to eat?" [12]The man said, "The woman<br />
whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree,<br />
and I ate." [13]Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What<br />
is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent<br />
deceived me, and I ate."<br />
   [14]The LORD God said to the serpent,<br />
  "Because you have done this,<br />
    cursed are you above all livestock<br />
    and above all beasts of the field;<br />
  on your belly you shall go,<br />
    and dust you shall eat<br />
    all the days of your life.<br />
  [15]I will put enmity between you and the woman,<br />
    and between your offspring and her offspring;<br />
  he shall bruise your head,<br />
    and you shall bruise his heel."<br />
   [16]To the woman he said,<br />
  "I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing;<br />
    in pain you shall bring forth children.<br />
  Your desire shall be for your husband,<br />
    and he shall rule over you."<br />
   [17]And to Adam he said,<br />
  "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife<br />
    and have eaten of the tree<br />
  of which I commanded you,<br />
    'You shall not eat of it,'<br />
  cursed is the ground because of you;<br />
    in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life;<br />
  [18]thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you;<br />
    and you shall eat the plants of the field.<br />
  [19]By the sweat of your face<br />
    you shall eat bread,<br />
  till you return to the ground,<br />
    for out of it you were taken;<br />
  for you are dust,<br />
    and to dust you shall return."<br />
   [20]The man called his wife's name Eve, because she was<br />
the mother of all living. [21]And the LORD God made for<br />
Adam and for his wife garments of skins and clothed them.<br />
   [22]Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become<br />
like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach<br />
out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and<br />
live forever--" [23]therefore the LORD God sent him out<br />
from the garden of Eden to work the ground from which he<br />
was taken. [24]He drove out the man, and at the east of the<br />
garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword<br />
that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life.<br />
(ESV)
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<p></span> (which was the object used by man to execute disobedience toward God, leading to the ‘fall’) and that mentioned in  <a href="javascript://" title="Show/Hide Scripture" onclick="showhide_esv('scripturizer1444217275');">Isaiah 1:1</a><span id="scripturizer1444217275" style="border-color: grey; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 5px; white-space: pre; display: none; padding: 5px; color: grey">Isaiah 1:1<br />
   [1:1]The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw<br />
concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah,<br />
Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. (ESV)
<div style="text-align: right; font-size: 9px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><a href="http://www.esv.org/">This text is from the ESV Bible. Visit www.esv.org to learn about the ESV.</a></div>
<p></span> which states  “There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots shall bear FRUIT” - ESV. </p>
<p>Although, possibly,  the most widely accepted interpretation of this passage may be that the “branch” is the object which is referring prophetically to Jesus, and that the “fruit” would pertain to His accomplished redemptive work, I would like to offer another take. That the “branch” might be a reference to the lineage of Joseph through Jesse. Then the “fruit” which is borne (or, perhaps, even born) of the branch would be the very person of Jesus, Himself. Who could then also be referred to, metaphorically, as the new (and redeeming) “fruit” of God’s provision. </p>
<p>Especially in light of the celebration of the Eucharist. We now partake, according to his positive direction to “DO this in remembrance of Me” (as opposed to “…thou shalt not eat…”), of the “fruit” of redemption. Of Jesus Himself (not to imply a doctrine of Transubstantiation). </p>
<p>Much in the same way that He is referred to as the new “Adam”, perhaps Jesus might also be referred to as the new (and thereby redemptive) “fruit”.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Moorhead</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/12/thoughts-on-chr/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Moorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thoughts, Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thoughts, Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Carlson</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/12/thoughts-on-chr/#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently received (for my birthday) Mark Dever's books "The Message of the Old Testament: Promises Made" and "The Message of the New Testament: Promises Kept," and have been slowly making my way through the Old Testament one in the past two weeks.  It is a remarkably helpful resource, and a wonderful read.  I would recommend these books to anyone and everyone who is interested in getting a better grasp of the Bible and the story of redemption.

Thanks for the thoughtful post, Bob, and for pointing others to Dever's outstanding work.

Kyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently received (for my birthday) Mark Dever&#8217;s books &#8220;The Message of the Old Testament: Promises Made&#8221; and &#8220;The Message of the New Testament: Promises Kept,&#8221; and have been slowly making my way through the Old Testament one in the past two weeks.  It is a remarkably helpful resource, and a wonderful read.  I would recommend these books to anyone and everyone who is interested in getting a better grasp of the Bible and the story of redemption.</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughtful post, Bob, and for pointing others to Dever&#8217;s outstanding work.</p>
<p>Kyle</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Gilland</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/12/thoughts-on-chr/#comment-961</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela Gilland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was such a great post. I've been really thinking about this topic of what it meant for Jesus to come into the world today. 

Thank you for your faithfulness in serving us with these blogs.

In awe of the Cross,
Angela</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was such a great post. I&#8217;ve been really thinking about this topic of what it meant for Jesus to come into the world today. </p>
<p>Thank you for your faithfulness in serving us with these blogs.</p>
<p>In awe of the Cross,<br />
Angela</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Schott</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/12/thoughts-on-chr/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Schott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was pretty awesome. I really liked the imagery behind the last poem. It's so true that the birth without the cross or the cross without the birth are meaningless. Both are important for our salvation.

"To truly find joy in Christmas, I have to acknowledge that Jesus didn't become a baby because I'm so good. He came because I'm so evil and needed a Savior. He didn't come to reward us for what we've done, but to save us from what we've done."
  That also moved me. It's easy to get caught up in the love that God had for His creation and sending His Son to die for us, but this puts it in perspective again. My sin. I'm no better than the worst sinner to walk the earth. God has covered me with the blood of Jesus and without that covering, I'm judged and found wanting.

Bob,
  Thank you for the time that you spend on this blog. I appreciate the articles you write and the thought behind them.

Merry Christmas!

In Him,
-Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was pretty awesome. I really liked the imagery behind the last poem. It&#8217;s so true that the birth without the cross or the cross without the birth are meaningless. Both are important for our salvation.</p>
<p>&#8220;To truly find joy in Christmas, I have to acknowledge that Jesus didn&#8217;t become a baby because I&#8217;m so good. He came because I&#8217;m so evil and needed a Savior. He didn&#8217;t come to reward us for what we&#8217;ve done, but to save us from what we&#8217;ve done.&#8221;<br />
  That also moved me. It&#8217;s easy to get caught up in the love that God had for His creation and sending His Son to die for us, but this puts it in perspective again. My sin. I&#8217;m no better than the worst sinner to walk the earth. God has covered me with the blood of Jesus and without that covering, I&#8217;m judged and found wanting.</p>
<p>Bob,<br />
  Thank you for the time that you spend on this blog. I appreciate the articles you write and the thought behind them.</p>
<p>Merry Christmas!</p>
<p>In Him,<br />
-Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a wonderful statement: "To think that Christmas is more about the stable in Bethlehem than about the cross in Jerusalem is to regard the acorn as more important than the oak..."

A great Christmas post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a wonderful statement: &#8220;To think that Christmas is more about the stable in Bethlehem than about the cross in Jerusalem is to regard the acorn as more important than the oak&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>A great Christmas post.</p>
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