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	<title>Comments on: What Ted Haggard Has Taught Me About Sin</title>
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	<description>Resources for Leading Worship from Bob Kauflin</description>
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		<title>By: George Chris Shemndolwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Chris Shemndolwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks be to God who loves us so much thus why he sent his only son Jesus to pay our debt "sin"
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/11/what-ted-haggar/#comment-891</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!" rom 3:24,25a

Amen. Unstoppable--the power of the Gospel; the power of the Holy God, through His holy blood.

thank you for this post Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!&#8221; rom 3:24,25a</p>
<p>Amen. Unstoppable&#8211;the power of the Gospel; the power of the Holy God, through His holy blood.</p>
<p>thank you for this post Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Byrne</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/11/what-ted-haggar/#comment-890</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

Its so refreshing to hear true worship in the mist of this trying situation. I thank GOD for your leading of our souls in your cross centered worship. Thanks.</description>
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<p>Its so refreshing to hear true worship in the mist of this trying situation. I thank GOD for your leading of our souls in your cross centered worship. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: stanley wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/11/what-ted-haggar/#comment-889</link>
		<dc:creator>stanley wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Friend:

You miss the biggest Haggard point: it is not the sin that is the real issue.  As you say, that is universal. It is having an unqualified elder remaining in a position of authority long after he realizes he is not qualified.

This is what damages the faithful more than the peculiar sin.
Stan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friend:</p>
<p>You miss the biggest Haggard point: it is not the sin that is the real issue.  As you say, that is universal. It is having an unqualified elder remaining in a position of authority long after he realizes he is not qualified.</p>
<p>This is what damages the faithful more than the peculiar sin.<br />
Stan</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Lauterbach</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/11/what-ted-haggar/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Lauterbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grateful for these careful words Bob!</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/11/what-ted-haggar/#comment-887</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a good post on such a visible subject to the world.  Also, thanks for the music you have created to give honor and glory to God.  Sola Deo Gloria!!!  I've been looking for your kind of music for a very long time.  

Grace and Peace,

Chris
Coram Deo!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a good post on such a visible subject to the world.  Also, thanks for the music you have created to give honor and glory to God.  Sola Deo Gloria!!!  I&#8217;ve been looking for your kind of music for a very long time.  </p>
<p>Grace and Peace,</p>
<p>Chris<br />
Coram Deo!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Magnuson</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/11/what-ted-haggar/#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Magnuson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Bob.  Thanks for bringing this sad situation into a biblical prespective.  Blessings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Bob.  Thanks for bringing this sad situation into a biblical prespective.  Blessings</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is well said. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: West Breedlove</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/11/what-ted-haggar/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>West Breedlove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,
I recently read an article where Michael Card said "Lament is the lost language of worship."  It's a good article (http://www.christianitytoday.com/music/interviews/2006/michaelcard-0606.html).  In light of the woundedness that Haggard, his church, and his family must be experiencing, and no doubt so many others in our own congregations due to their own burdens, sins, and griefs, I was wondering what your thoughts were on how to, if at all, include lamenting in our present context.  Should we grow in this area of worship?  Does it mean that there is an "over-realized eschatology" in our worship if we don't? A tendency to lean too heavily on the "not yet" instead of the "now" of our faith and Christian experience?   It seems like lamenting was something spirituals could really tap into, but that many hymns/songs, for all their doctrinal lucidity can not.  (The only one I find in the Trinity Hymnal is #79, "My God, My God, O Why Have You Forsaken Me?")  It's a great tune that Phil Keaggy arranged for his Beyond Nature album.  But I find it very hard to fit in to a worship service.  How do we (if we should at all) join the saints of old, and sit in the ashes as a congregation to weep before God?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,<br />
I recently read an article where Michael Card said &#8220;Lament is the lost language of worship.&#8221;  It&#8217;s a good article (http://www.christianitytoday.com/music/interviews/2006/michaelcard-0606.html).  In light of the woundedness that Haggard, his church, and his family must be experiencing, and no doubt so many others in our own congregations due to their own burdens, sins, and griefs, I was wondering what your thoughts were on how to, if at all, include lamenting in our present context.  Should we grow in this area of worship?  Does it mean that there is an &#8220;over-realized eschatology&#8221; in our worship if we don&#8217;t? A tendency to lean too heavily on the &#8220;not yet&#8221; instead of the &#8220;now&#8221; of our faith and Christian experience?   It seems like lamenting was something spirituals could really tap into, but that many hymns/songs, for all their doctrinal lucidity can not.  (The only one I find in the Trinity Hymnal is #79, &#8220;My God, My God, O Why Have You Forsaken Me?&#8221;)  It&#8217;s a great tune that Phil Keaggy arranged for his Beyond Nature album.  But I find it very hard to fit in to a worship service.  How do we (if we should at all) join the saints of old, and sit in the ashes as a congregation to weep before God?</p>
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