Comments on: Vacation Quote #4 - The Difference Between http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/09/vacation-quote/ Resources for Leading Worship from Bob Kauflin Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:58:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Bob Kauflin http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/09/vacation-quote/comment-page-1/#comment-746 Bob Kauflin Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:17:57 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=205#comment-746 Gary, Thanks for your thoughtful comment. I think Harold Best would agree with you that our music should be an expression of all that we are as we worship God. I don't read his comments as taking a "cheap shot over the bow of the Vatican." Some believe that the elements in communion actually become the body and blood of Christ. While I don't think transubstantiation is taught in Scripture, I'm even more certain that <b>music</b> can never communicate the actual presence of Christ to us. Rather it is meant to be an expression of hearts that are already exalting the Savior. It might draw us in emotionally so that we are better able to focus on the God we worship, but only the Spirit of God enables us to worship Him, with or without music. Gary,

Thanks for your thoughtful comment. I think Harold Best would agree with you that our music should be an expression of all that we are as we worship God.

I don’t read his comments as taking a “cheap shot over the bow of the Vatican.” Some believe that the elements in communion actually become the body and blood of Christ. While I don’t think transubstantiation is taught in Scripture, I’m even more certain that music can never communicate the actual presence of Christ to us. Rather it is meant to be an expression of hearts that are already exalting the Savior. It might draw us in emotionally so that we are better able to focus on the God we worship, but only the Spirit of God enables us to worship Him, with or without music.

]]> By: gary archibeck http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/09/vacation-quote/comment-page-1/#comment-745 gary archibeck Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:05:15 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=205#comment-745 I found this line troubling, "If we are not careful, music will be added to the list of sacraments and perhaps with some Christians become another kind of transubstantiation, turned into the Lord’s presence." Seems like a cheap shot over the bow of the Vatican. Worship is an expression of all that I am. There is no 'spiritual' verses 'carnal' element within me. I am a child of the covenant: I am in King Jesus. Deut 6:4,5 teaches me how to worship: Hear O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. Music is what I am. It's what I do. Only through the grace of God has my being experienced the renewing power of the Holy Spirit. All that I am belongs to the Father through Jesus my King. To create a dichotomy between worshiping God and how I express myself through music is akin to saying I do not need my body to worship. Though Rom 12:1 is clear my whole being is to be offered. I appreciate the author's exhortation to the discerning of spirits, and his attempt at a corrective to consumerism in our communities. However, is this the best way to communicate those goals? By the way this is a fine site, and I love the way you honor our Lord and King. blessings gary I found this line troubling, “If we are not careful, music will be added to the list of sacraments and perhaps with some Christians become another kind of transubstantiation, turned into the Lord’s presence.” Seems like a cheap shot over the bow of the Vatican.

Worship is an expression of all that I am. There is no ’spiritual’ verses ‘carnal’ element within me. I am a child of the covenant: I am in King Jesus. Deut 6:4,5 teaches me how to worship: Hear O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.

Music is what I am. It’s what I do. Only through the grace of God has my being experienced the renewing power of the Holy Spirit. All that I am belongs to the Father through Jesus my King. To create a dichotomy between worshiping God and how I express myself through music is akin to saying I do not need my body to worship. Though Rom 12:1 is clear my whole being is to be offered.

I appreciate the author’s exhortation to the discerning of spirits, and his attempt at a corrective to consumerism in our communities. However, is this the best way to communicate those goals?

By the way this is a fine site, and I love the way you honor our Lord and King.

blessings
gary

]]> By: Nathan Yates http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/09/vacation-quote/comment-page-1/#comment-744 Nathan Yates Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:48:43 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=205#comment-744 I had something "important" to say about this blog, but I think purpose would be just as well served if I let you know that the excerpt you took from Best is a truly counter-culture statement contrary to the views I have heard many times in church. Thank you for the information you have provided. It's such a different view that I will need to read it a few more times. Thank You again. I had something “important” to say about this blog, but I think purpose would be just as well served if I let you know that the excerpt you took from Best is a truly counter-culture statement contrary to the views I have heard many times in church. Thank you for the information you have provided. It’s such a different view that I will need to read it a few more times. Thank You again.

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