Comments on: WorshipGod06 Conference Blog http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/06/worshipgod06-co/ Resources for Leading Worship from Bob Kauflin Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:37:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: phil http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/06/worshipgod06-co/#comment-578 phil Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:18:53 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=171#comment-578 Bob, How about the tension between spontaneity on the one hand (desiring not to quench the Spirit by being too rigid with a planned order of service, but allowing for changes in direction as the Spirit may lead), and wise and careful planning on the other hand (seeking to avoid laziness in planning or chaos in implementation, but giving forethought and prayer into a well-planned, cohesive service)? Bob,

How about the tension between spontaneity on the one hand (desiring not to quench the Spirit by being too rigid with a planned order of service, but allowing for changes in direction as the Spirit may lead), and wise and careful planning on the other hand (seeking to avoid laziness in planning or chaos in implementation, but giving forethought and prayer into a well-planned, cohesive service)?

]]> By: west http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/06/worshipgod06-co/#comment-577 west Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:44:51 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=171#comment-577 Bob, I was still thinking about your question, and read something from John Piper that said much more eloquently and nuanced another issue I was thinking about - the tension between fine and folk culture (which is really felt in my church with music accompanied by either a $1/2 million pipe organ or my Taylor). We make every effort to "blend", but the fact remains that many prefer one or the other. You and your readers can read Piper's excellent article here: http://www.desiringgod.org/library/topics/worship/worship_and_culture.html Bob,
I was still thinking about your question, and read something from John Piper that said much more eloquently and nuanced another issue I was thinking about - the tension between fine and folk culture (which is really felt in my church with music accompanied by either a $1/2 million pipe organ or my Taylor). We make every effort to “blend”, but the fact remains that many prefer one or the other. You and your readers can read Piper’s excellent article here: http://www.desiringgod.org/library/topics/worship/worship_and_culture.html

]]> By: west http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/06/worshipgod06-co/#comment-576 west Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:49:06 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=171#comment-576 One of the easiest tensions for me to identify in our worship is the desire for both expression and restraint. It is too easy to settle the tension with the rationale that those who want to be expressive are just naturally demonstrative, and those who champion retraint are not. However (and I believe your short series on physical expression was very helpful on this topic), the final word from Scripture has something to say to both the naturally demonstrative and the naturally reserved that will call them away from their natural disposition in worship. Thanks Bob. Keep up the fine work brother. One of the easiest tensions for me to identify in our worship is the desire for both expression and restraint. It is too easy to settle the tension with the rationale that those who want to be expressive are just naturally demonstrative, and those who champion retraint are not. However (and I believe your short series on physical expression was very helpful on this topic), the final word from Scripture has something to say to both the naturally demonstrative and the naturally reserved that will call them away from their natural disposition in worship.
Thanks Bob. Keep up the fine work brother.

]]> By: phil http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/06/worshipgod06-co/#comment-575 phil Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:02:30 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=171#comment-575 How about in choosing music: Being careful to be discerning, to choose theologically sound songs, and yet not being too constricting--clamping down so hard on songs, that they are picked apart to death. We could pick apart even the greatest hymns if we wanted. (Just as you mentioned once, 'When I Survey the Wondrous Cross' never mentions what the cross actually did-- but that doesn't mean it's not valuable for us to sing). Changing words to popular songs to make them theologically sound could enhance worship, or it could be a distraction--rather than leading the congregation to think, "isn't our God great?", it could lead them to simply think, "Why did they change that line? There was nothing wrong with it the way it was. Talk about picky!" How about in choosing music: Being careful to be discerning, to choose theologically sound songs, and yet not being too constricting–clamping down so hard on songs, that they are picked apart to death. We could pick apart even the greatest hymns if we wanted. (Just as you mentioned once, ‘When I Survey the Wondrous Cross’ never mentions what the cross actually did– but that doesn’t mean it’s not valuable for us to sing).

Changing words to popular songs to make them theologically sound could enhance worship, or it could be a distraction–rather than leading the congregation to think, “isn’t our God great?”, it could lead them to simply think, “Why did they change that line? There was nothing wrong with it the way it was. Talk about picky!”

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