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	<title>Comments on: What Does a Worship Leader Do? Pt. 13</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Kauflin</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/02/what-does-a-worship-leader-do-part-13/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kauflin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

You wrote:

"So what would you say is the responsibility of the worship leader with regard to the congregation's response in worship? If you're leading worship and the people don't seem motivated to respond in worship, is that your fault?"

I think a leader can do things to encourage or hinder people engaging with and exalting God. However, ultimately the responsibility lies with the individual, not the leader. If I'm a Christian, I should seek to exalt God in my mind, heart, and will no matter what the leader is doing in front.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;So what would you say is the responsibility of the worship leader with regard to the congregation&#8217;s response in worship? If you&#8217;re leading worship and the people don&#8217;t seem motivated to respond in worship, is that your fault?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think a leader can do things to encourage or hinder people engaging with and exalting God. However, ultimately the responsibility lies with the individual, not the leader. If I&#8217;m a Christian, I should seek to exalt God in my mind, heart, and will no matter what the leader is doing in front.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kauflin</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/02/what-does-a-worship-leader-do-part-13/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kauflin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ,

This is the question we'll be seeking to address at the WorshipGod06 conference in August. You can find out more information at www.worshipgod06.com. Briefly, though, I'd say that our primary task is to do as you say - impress upon the congregation the objective, or promised, presence of God. However, I think there should also be an expectation that the Holy Spirit will actively engage our hearts to impress truth upon our hearts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ,</p>
<p>This is the question we&#8217;ll be seeking to address at the WorshipGod06 conference in August. You can find out more information at <a href="http://www.worshipgod06.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.worshipgod06.com</a>. Briefly, though, I&#8217;d say that our primary task is to do as you say - impress upon the congregation the objective, or promised, presence of God. However, I think there should also be an expectation that the Holy Spirit will actively engage our hearts to impress truth upon our hearts.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/02/what-does-a-worship-leader-do-part-13/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn't part of the worship leader's task, or perhaps the primary task, be to impress upon the congregation the objective presence of God when his people are assembled to worship, whether anyone "feels" it or not? I've attended several charismatic churches in the past (I now attend a very traditional Reformed church), and for all the things I appreciated about them, I was always uneasy with the underlying assumption that worship was to work up an awareness of God's presence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t part of the worship leader&#8217;s task, or perhaps the primary task, be to impress upon the congregation the objective presence of God when his people are assembled to worship, whether anyone &#8220;feels&#8221; it or not? I&#8217;ve attended several charismatic churches in the past (I now attend a very traditional Reformed church), and for all the things I appreciated about them, I was always uneasy with the underlying assumption that worship was to work up an awareness of God&#8217;s presence.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian McConnell</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/02/what-does-a-worship-leader-do-part-13/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian McConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe what would help here is to think about what it is we have the capability of motivating people to do.  

Let me run some scenarios by you.

When I am sharing the gospel with an unbeliever I can not, no matter how hard I try, humanly motivate them to respond to the gospel in saving faith.  I simply with the Holy Spirit's help direct their attention to that which God uses to elicit saving faith from anyone who believes, namely the gospel.  The gospel is a means of grace but I can’t make effective the grace available in the gospel.  The grace available in the gospel unto salvation is only made effectual by the sovereign wisdom of God.

The bottom line is that it is always God who makes effectual the grace available in the gospel. 

As we seek to build up the body of Christ with the teaching of the Word of God, no matter how hard I try, I can not motivate any believer to respond to the clear teaching of Scripture in sanctifying faith.  I simply with the Holy Spirit's help direct their attention to that which God uses to produce the fruit of the Spirit in their lives, namely the gospel. The grace available in the gospel of sanctification is only made effectual by the sovereign wisdom of God.

I would suggest that the same is true of worship.  With the Holy Spirit's help we simply direct people's attention to that which is full of worship enabling grace, namely the gospel and trust God to make it effectual by His sovereign wisdom.

Our blessed responsibility is to be so full of the gospel that when we evangelize with the gospel, when we build-up the body with gospel, when we lead worship with the gospel we are doing so in faith begging the Holy Spirit to make effective the grace that is available in it according to His sovereign grace.

When we unleash the gospel as leaders, it is not always responded to the way we hope, but keep in mind we are unleashing the only thing which will bring a response if there is ever a going to be a response!   So I guess the application is that we lead worship by faith alone, through grace alone, in the gospel alone?!?  I’m not trying to change the 5 pillars, it just sounded right to me (-: 

Oh the mystery of the gospel!  Isn’t it awesome!

“Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God!  How unsearchable are His judgments and how inscrutable His ways!”  Romans 11:33</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe what would help here is to think about what it is we have the capability of motivating people to do.  </p>
<p>Let me run some scenarios by you.</p>
<p>When I am sharing the gospel with an unbeliever I can not, no matter how hard I try, humanly motivate them to respond to the gospel in saving faith.  I simply with the Holy Spirit&#8217;s help direct their attention to that which God uses to elicit saving faith from anyone who believes, namely the gospel.  The gospel is a means of grace but I can’t make effective the grace available in the gospel.  The grace available in the gospel unto salvation is only made effectual by the sovereign wisdom of God.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that it is always God who makes effectual the grace available in the gospel. </p>
<p>As we seek to build up the body of Christ with the teaching of the Word of God, no matter how hard I try, I can not motivate any believer to respond to the clear teaching of Scripture in sanctifying faith.  I simply with the Holy Spirit&#8217;s help direct their attention to that which God uses to produce the fruit of the Spirit in their lives, namely the gospel. The grace available in the gospel of sanctification is only made effectual by the sovereign wisdom of God.</p>
<p>I would suggest that the same is true of worship.  With the Holy Spirit&#8217;s help we simply direct people&#8217;s attention to that which is full of worship enabling grace, namely the gospel and trust God to make it effectual by His sovereign wisdom.</p>
<p>Our blessed responsibility is to be so full of the gospel that when we evangelize with the gospel, when we build-up the body with gospel, when we lead worship with the gospel we are doing so in faith begging the Holy Spirit to make effective the grace that is available in it according to His sovereign grace.</p>
<p>When we unleash the gospel as leaders, it is not always responded to the way we hope, but keep in mind we are unleashing the only thing which will bring a response if there is ever a going to be a response!   So I guess the application is that we lead worship by faith alone, through grace alone, in the gospel alone?!?  I’m not trying to change the 5 pillars, it just sounded right to me (-: </p>
<p>Oh the mystery of the gospel!  Isn’t it awesome!</p>
<p>“Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God!  How unsearchable are His judgments and how inscrutable His ways!”   <a href="javascript://" title="Show/Hide Scripture" onclick="showhide_esv('scripturizer1116812857');">Romans 11:33</a><span id="scripturizer1116812857" style="border-color: grey; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 5px; white-space: pre; display: none; padding: 5px; color: grey">Romans 11:33<br />
   [33]Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge<br />
of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how<br />
inscrutable his ways! (ESV)
<div style="text-align: right; font-size: 9px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><a href="http://www.esv.org/">This text is from the ESV Bible. Visit www.esv.org to learn about the ESV.</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/02/what-does-a-worship-leader-do-part-13/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great thoughts!  So often I do feel guilty that perhaps I'm not doing something right, but we can't make people worship.  But, that being said, I agree with your sentiment that "If I’m magnifying the worth of God and the work of the Savior myself, I’m in the best place to motivate others to worship God."
This is motivation in itself to be right with God and have our own proper motivation before leading in corporate worship!  Thanks for this post and all the other wonderful resources you provide on your site!

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great thoughts!  So often I do feel guilty that perhaps I&#8217;m not doing something right, but we can&#8217;t make people worship.  But, that being said, I agree with your sentiment that &#8220;If I’m magnifying the worth of God and the work of the Savior myself, I’m in the best place to motivate others to worship God.&#8221;<br />
This is motivation in itself to be right with God and have our own proper motivation before leading in corporate worship!  Thanks for this post and all the other wonderful resources you provide on your site!</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Heerema</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/02/what-does-a-worship-leader-do-part-13/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Heerema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan - I have a feeling that's what he's doing :).  I'd buy it and recommend it too.

Thanks Bob.  We're struggling with this in our church.  Do you find that the above recommendations effect people, and helps them to respond?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan - I have a feeling that&#8217;s what he&#8217;s doing :).  I&#8217;d buy it and recommend it too.</p>
<p>Thanks Bob.  We&#8217;re struggling with this in our church.  Do you find that the above recommendations effect people, and helps them to respond?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Hames</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/02/what-does-a-worship-leader-do-part-13/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Hames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

You ought to collect all these posts and write a book. I'd buy it with pleasure and recommend it to all my music leading friends!

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>You ought to collect all these posts and write a book. I&#8217;d buy it with pleasure and recommend it to all my music leading friends!</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Schellhase</title>
		<link>http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/02/what-does-a-worship-leader-do-part-13/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Schellhase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what would you say is the responsibility of the worship leader with regard to the congregation's response in worship? If you're leading worship and the people don't seem motivated to respond in worship, is that your fault?

Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what would you say is the responsibility of the worship leader with regard to the congregation&#8217;s response in worship? If you&#8217;re leading worship and the people don&#8217;t seem motivated to respond in worship, is that your fault?</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
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