Comments on: On Musicians and Reading Books http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/01/on-musicians-an/ Resources for Leading Worship from Bob Kauflin Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:04:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Mark Moore http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/01/on-musicians-an/#comment-145 Mark Moore Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:41:13 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=62#comment-145 Bob: Your comments are right on! My seminary education focused more on the skills of being a musician than it did on the theology of worship. Since attending WorshipGod06, I've been reading everything I can get my hands on (from your reading list). One immediate impact is that we, as a staff, have been focusing more on the Gospel than style. I feel like a kid at Christmas! Thanks for modeling that for all of us. Bob:

Your comments are right on! My seminary education focused more on the skills of being a musician than it did on the theology of worship.

Since attending WorshipGod06, I’ve been reading everything I can get my hands on (from your reading list). One immediate impact is that we, as a staff, have been focusing more on the Gospel than style.

I feel like a kid at Christmas! Thanks for modeling that for all of us.

]]> By: Josh Otte http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/01/on-musicians-an/#comment-144 Josh Otte Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:08:29 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=62#comment-144 Just as a word of encouragement for some of you who have the blessed opportunity of leading times of gathered worship: what you are doing is pastoral. Definitely pursue the wisdom of your church leadership to see how you should continue to become equipped for ministry. A "worship leader"'s responsibility is ultimately pastoral. We short-change ourselves and our congregations when we use that title to refer only to the leading of music. By God's grace, I was brought on staff at my church as the assistant pastor, and I oversee corporate worship and mission. Our church is only about 150 people, but they saw the need to have pastoral oversight in the planning and leading of corporate worship and the integrating of our gathered times of worship with mission, local and global. Bob, thanks for your steadfastness. Your songs and writings have had a huge impact in my own life and ministry. Serving King Jesus, Josh O. Just as a word of encouragement for some of you who have the blessed opportunity of leading times of gathered worship: what you are doing is pastoral. Definitely pursue the wisdom of your church leadership to see how you should continue to become equipped for ministry.

A “worship leader”’s responsibility is ultimately pastoral. We short-change ourselves and our congregations when we use that title to refer only to the leading of music.

By God’s grace, I was brought on staff at my church as the assistant pastor, and I oversee corporate worship and mission. Our church is only about 150 people, but they saw the need to have pastoral oversight in the planning and leading of corporate worship and the integrating of our gathered times of worship with mission, local and global.

Bob, thanks for your steadfastness. Your songs and writings have had a huge impact in my own life and ministry.

Serving King Jesus,
Josh O.

]]> By: Dan Hames http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/01/on-musicians-an/#comment-143 Dan Hames Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:42:33 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=62#comment-143 "I am a musician and I love theology. Like another commenter, I have struggled with whether I am called to teach, lead worship/music, both or even neither." That could have been me speaking! Thanks for your post Bob; your observations are spot-on, and it's clearly a concern to some of us. I guess there needs to be people in church music who care about theology and doctrine, but are willing to stay in music so that our songs, meetings and corporate times of worship are truly honouring to God “I am a musician and I love theology. Like another commenter, I have struggled with whether I am called to teach, lead worship/music, both or even neither.”

That could have been me speaking! Thanks for your post Bob; your observations are spot-on, and it’s clearly a concern to some of us. I guess there needs to be people in church music who care about theology and doctrine, but are willing to stay in music so that our songs, meetings and corporate times of worship are truly honouring to God

]]> By: Danny McDonald http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/01/on-musicians-an/#comment-142 Danny McDonald Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:50:37 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=62#comment-142 Thank you Bob for your post; I look forward to your other posts concerning this issue. Your posts lately have been timely. May the Lord be with you. Danny Thank you Bob for your post; I look forward to your other posts concerning this issue. Your posts lately have been timely. May the Lord be with you.

Danny

]]> By: Brian Bosse http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/01/on-musicians-an/#comment-141 Brian Bosse Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:06:36 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=62#comment-141 Hello Bob! Thank you for your comments. I remember last year in one of your workshops at the Sovereign Grace Leadership meeting you said that the worship leader needed to be a better theologian than a musician. This really struck me, and I have begun implementing it in our church. In fact, I am meeting with three of my worship leaders this morning, and we are covering chapters 7 and 8 in Peterson's "Engaging with God." Sincerely, Brian Bosse Music Director of Faith Community Church in Tucson, AZ. Hello Bob!

Thank you for your comments. I remember last year in one of your workshops at the Sovereign Grace Leadership meeting you said that the worship leader needed to be a better theologian than a musician. This really struck me, and I have begun implementing it in our church. In fact, I am meeting with three of my worship leaders this morning, and we are covering chapters 7 and 8 in Peterson’s “Engaging with God.”

Sincerely,

Brian Bosse
Music Director of Faith Community Church in Tucson, AZ.

]]> By: Patrick Donohue http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/01/on-musicians-an/#comment-140 Patrick Donohue Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:03:28 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=62#comment-140 This comment is timely for me. I am a musician and I love theology. Like another commenter, I have struggled with whether I am called to teach, lead worship/music, both or even neither. One of my Seminary classes his quarter is on the Theology of Worship, we're using Peterson's book as a primary text and the prof. is finishing his DMin. on Worship Theology. He shared that his residence time (at a reputable seminary) was with less than 1/2 dozen others who shared his intereset in Worship Theology, where other programs were packed to the gills. I imagine that this change could take a while, but from what your post tells me, as well as the Word, it's got to be worth it! This comment is timely for me. I am a musician and I love theology. Like another commenter, I have struggled with whether I am called to teach, lead worship/music, both or even neither. One of my Seminary classes his quarter is on the Theology of Worship, we’re using Peterson’s book as a primary text and the prof. is finishing his DMin. on Worship Theology. He shared that his residence time (at a reputable seminary) was with less than 1/2 dozen others who shared his intereset in Worship Theology, where other programs were packed to the gills. I imagine that this change could take a while, but from what your post tells me, as well as the Word, it’s got to be worth it!

]]> By: MVB http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/01/on-musicians-an/#comment-139 MVB Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:23:36 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=62#comment-139 Good post! It's scary that Christian musicians and leaders are no longer interested in theology!!! Looking forward to your next post. Good post! It’s scary that Christian musicians and leaders are no longer interested in theology!!!

Looking forward to your next post.

]]> By: Paul Helms http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/01/on-musicians-an/#comment-138 Paul Helms Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:53:41 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=62#comment-138 Bob, I'm a student worship leader at a college ministry at Indiana University, and I have to say that I agree with you :) Sometimes, though, I have trouble figuring out whether or not my deep interest in theology means that I should pursue pastoral ministry instead of worship ministry. I guess that's where trusting the Lord comes in :) For now, I really enjoy leading our worship team and *being led* by the Holy Spirit into a deeper faith and deeper love for Christ through song and Scripture. Keep up the good posts! Bob,

I’m a student worship leader at a college ministry at Indiana University, and I have to say that I agree with you :) Sometimes, though, I have trouble figuring out whether or not my deep interest in theology means that I should pursue pastoral ministry instead of worship ministry. I guess that’s where trusting the Lord comes in :) For now, I really enjoy leading our worship team and *being led* by the Holy Spirit into a deeper faith and deeper love for Christ through song and Scripture. Keep up the good posts!

]]> By: Evan May http://www.worshipmatters.com/2006/01/on-musicians-an/#comment-137 Evan May Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:14:55 +0000 http://www.worshipmatters.com?p=62#comment-137 Having led worship in the past, I know that those who lead Christ's church before the thrown of grace need to be impacted by theology (especially doctrines such as the self-sufficiency of God or the sovereignty of grace) *most*. My church has benefited greatly from the fact that our Worship Pastor has "done his homework" in this area. Having led worship in the past, I know that those who lead Christ’s church before the thrown of grace need to be impacted by theology (especially doctrines such as the self-sufficiency of God or the sovereignty of grace) *most*. My church has benefited greatly from the fact that our Worship Pastor has “done his homework” in this area.

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